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« on: January 05, 2006, 03:47:39 PM »

ive been researching these reciently (looking for those cheap bhp! anrt we all?!) ive found a number of comp's that sell voltage stabalizers and "kits" (wire+connectors) they retail at approx £85-£150 which seemed alot so i thought i try and ask a few q's to members on other sites to see if i could upgrade it DIY style. i found an article saying that if grounding connections are made at multiple point on the chassis that this will improve power, (dyno proved 9BHP on a standard B16A with a brand name kit including stablizer) cold starts, stereo clarity, and engine pick-up, so i though if these point and connections are improved on mine can expect half that increase, (realistically).

rather than fiddle for hours making and fitting i thought if i undo, (worsen) the connections that this would decrease the effectiveness.
i did this and this morning i started up, (took longer than usual engine turned ova 5-6 times usually 2-3) stereo was really affected alot quieter, car needed more revving to pull away, (loss of responce) and felt as though i had a load of people in back (loss of power). adding this up it seemed what there were suggesting IS true and not sales Bull$*!£.

im gona make some multi linked grounding points on the car on sat, so ill let you all know the difference.

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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2006, 05:34:42 PM »

im not 100% on this but im sure you will not gain much if any horsepower.
the point of the earthing syatem is to earth the voltage running through the cars systems, yes the stock ones can be improved on but i didin't think you could gain hp from them.
they just regulate the power so by loosening it you are weakening the earth so it would run poorer and if you took it off it wouldnt start at all.

they are only usually used on cars with a lot of electronics and/or ice to aid voltage flow through the systems, and help the vehicle run smoother and more effectivly under load.

taken from apexi hompage

"Apexi Super Grounding System stabilizes electrical noise and voltage spikes. The Super Ground System maximizes electrical component efficiency by combining an electrical grounding system with a battery current and voltage stabilization control unit. The control unit features an electrical charging system and electrical noise filter. The double noise filter smoothes turbulent electrical current, providing a stable and consistent voltage flow to all your vehicles electrical devices. The Apexi Super Grounding System maximizes the efficiency of all factory vehicle electrical systems, allowing smoother engine operation, more efficient electrical component operation, and improved electrical current."
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2006, 05:58:05 PM »

I know a lad on the CTR forum did do tests with these......he makes his own I think and sells them on.....and there was quite a lot of voltage leakage, and by putting the kit on, he got every point to around 0V which was good........as for increase BHP, i wouldnt have said so, but you may well get an increase in performance in the sense you get the correct power out the car....where as it may have been loosing it eslewhere!!

Take a pic dude of the points your earthing etc! So if needs be we can all follow suit Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2006, 03:51:48 PM »

i re-earthed the connections in 5 linked points (standard is 2) car seemed a bit more urgent and responsive and started quicker, seemed less boggy when put my foot down, so in conclusion not an amazing difference but for full cost of under £5 not bad. i have a sparky neighbour so ill see what he recommends for "stablizing" the current.

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2006, 03:59:36 PM »

Fancy doing is a few pictures and talk through how you did it dude??

Could make a sticky if you make a good one Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2006, 12:41:46 PM »

having had no luck finding out about voltage stableizer's or where i can get anything like 1, i decided to diy what HKS sell as a "ground circle kit".

this retails at $50 i made it for £2.70.

i bought 3 metres of copper wire 4-5mm thick (thicker the better) and 10 female circle connectors, big enough for a 10mm bolt to fit through. cut wire up into 5 pieces same length attached connectors each end then popped the hood and...

i then detached the negitave wire off of the batt that attaches to the chassis of the car, (via a bolt). i then very simply chose and undid the light fixing bolts next to batt (if you have facelift model im not sure where connections are as fixings differ, clever honda), i have linked this to the standard ground wire connector on left hand side of block (that links eng to chassis, thick pleated one) then to other light fixing then to bolt on right side of bay (used for air con i think) then connected this (you see the "circle" idea now) to a bolt at the back of eng bay (dead centre) then to another wire connected to negitive and ground source of battery. basically dont have to use all points mentioned here just guidelines, any bolt attached to the chassis can be used as long as there is a strong, clean connection. sadley i dont have a camera to help explain, but look under the airfilter thread (all 50 million of 'em) and look at a pic of the bay, just go dot-to-dot with connectors then link to neg/earth by battery and you cant go wrong.

give it a wirl, d16v1 junky
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2006, 12:44:12 PM »

http://www.modacar.com/products/Honda/Civic/GROUNDK/grounding.html  

check this out. regards D16v1 junky
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2006, 01:33:21 PM »

I made my own from about £20 worth of parts.
It definately made a difference at the top end 5000RPM and up.
Mine runs from the Battery to the front chassis then to each of the Earths on Spark Capaciters. This seems to make up for the Spark Caps being earthed to the Rocker cover which sits on rubberised casket stuff. :lol:
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2006, 04:29:09 PM »

Might give something like this a go!! Not sure on all the point you have named to connect to, but im sure id be able to work it out though Smiley
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